First tool ban is here! A new law was just signed in New York that requires blueprint blocking technology on every CNC machine, laser cutter, lathe and 3D printer. This affects everyone who makes, builds or fixes things. This isn’t a firearms law. It’s a manufacturing law. And they buried it in the budget because they knew exactly what it was.

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    I still don’t understand why they let budget bills get stuffed with unrelated laws. Seems like those should be separate bills, not hidden in must pass legislation.

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      I try to consider what would happen if someone actually had the integrity to stand up to this shit.

      They’d get outed for holding back the budget. Media would be all over it framing them as being obstructionist.

      It’d require some balls and connection to the media to set the story straight.

      But it’d also require that they even know about what they’re voting for. These kinds of changes are deliberately being shoveled onto the cart after train has started running. You’d have to hire a team to read everything as soon as it written and demand that changes are published before voting, which it is sometimes isn’t, so this is something that also have to be addressed all the while the media is shooting at you.

      The best thing would be to allow a complete breakdown. Don’t pass anything. See what happens and who the people support when they’re hungry.

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                  Yes they do? They are the guard/attack dogs of the bourgeoisie that reigns in the cattle (the rest of us). That metaphor isn’t exactly new.

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              I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you are not a native English speaker and not just sea lioning. Here is the break down for you:

              Socialism for the rich = subsidized losses for the rich, see every bailout for the past forever

              Unions for the dogs = police unions. Incredibly powerful unions that prevent cops from being held accountable in any way. They can kill a guy and the union will prevent them from being fired. All other unions are subject to union breaking efforts often by means of the police

              Scraps for the rest = you get nothing, you own nothing, your unions will be attacked by all means available

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          no I agree but if you take a look at the USA from afar then it appears this way. It is no me not wanting unions its the other way around.

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    From the actual bill:

    HOWEVER, THAT IF THE WORKING GROUP DETERMINES THAT IT IS NOT TECHNOLOGICALLY FEASIBLE TO REQUIRE THREE-DIMENSIONAL PRINTERS SOLD IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK TO INCLUDE BLOCKING TECHNOLOGY, THE WORKING GROUP SHALL SO REPORT, AND NO REGULATIONS SHALL BE REQUIRED TO BE PROMULGATED PURSUANT TO THIS SECTION, UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THE WORKING GROUP DETER- MINES THAT IT IS TECHNOLOGICALLY FEASIBLE.

    Considering the number of open source 3d printers, and mills, plus conversion packages for manual mills, It’s ludicrous to assume it’s feasible. And NY has nowhere near the manufacturing monopoly to force the rest of the country, let alone the world, to comply with a demand that all of them have blocking systems.

    Even given the safety check of a working group, this same bill also makes a stick illegal. So it’s more than likely to fail on a few challenges, assuming it even makes it to final vote in this form.

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      They start with closed source and will close the open source loop hole in a future bill. This is boiling frogs if anything.

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        It’s even better than that - for them.

        With this bill the legislation is effectively now on the books but in a dormant state where it can be selectively activated at any future time and with whatever scope the ‘working group’ decide.

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      Explainaturd in the room… Toxic positive optimist. No one wants to talk about the yankkee cartel and the gun and drug running it does. Inch by inch… they never do anything for the good. Billionares can make it happen capitain… they don’t run things the way they you think… You have no leverage. As long as they winning they don’t care if the shits on fire. The 10% is on the spreadsheet. You no longer matter. They can make this happen… at least in the USA. Anything is possible in gang banger USA. Imperial boomerang… They create the problem to solve the problem.

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    Even if something like this were to actually come to fruition, I have to imagine that all it would really result in is kind of like when the EU used to have less strict guidelines on wireless technologies and in America you could just flash the European firmware to get longer range. Surely there will just be a New York specific firmware and then you can flash the firmware from somewhere else.

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    Scan “your design”…so goodbye to IP “intellectual property” / a new patentable idea…- imagine companies spending billions on developing new product…only to have it counterfeited by others I am so sick and tired of positive people. Sheep to the slaughter.

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      Meh, “Goodbye to IP” would be a good thing, lol. But of course, the corpos and businesses would be able to buy back their privacy. I.e., this ban and the scanning of 3D prints would be used to oppress the proletariat, to prevent our liberation specifically, as all States do. Intellectual property really has nothing to do with it.

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      given the situation it is not good… ameriturds may never reach their full pontential… we got a dum dum legacy so, fuck IP but yet we ain’t got no fucking leverage and turdherd is going to go along with it like they always do. I knew the department of homeland security was just a fascist front. I remember 9/11 people ran wild… no one thought and they had no gawd damn framework. We are gettin dumber everyday. It is crazy paying attention and getting older. There is no war but the class war.

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    Progressive mandani where you at fool… libturds larping as the left. Billionares are dominating you.

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      Not exactly sure what the mayor of NYC can do re state regulations? But i don’t live in the US, what do i know

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        The mayor is a democrat. The party as a whole is unified against the working class. They all lick the boots of capital. They all in on it. Businesses exist in NYC will go belly up and there designs will be owned and be used to train chatgipity. He is very much aware of this bill and is too much of a coward to say anything. He is only self intersted just like AOC. Just like obamas campain they are good at optics. It will affect his people. Look at trump hes got somthing to say about everything. We in america need real leaders asap.

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          I’d agree that the Democratic Party is decidedly corporatist, but it seems evident that Mamdani is a socialist, putting him on the extreme left of what is a centre-right party (do you remember how prominent democrats refused to endorse him?). And how do you know he’s aware of this when not only is he responsible for running one of the greatest metropolises in the world, but the wording of this bill is, in your own words, hidden in s budget?

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          Businesses exist in NYC will go belly up and there designs will be owned and be used to train chatgipity.

          Based, small business owners are enemies because small capitalists are still capitalists that need to be smashed. One less enemy to fight 😈

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          Cry baby Crrryyyyyyy Fucking hate me I love it. Justice will be served I am telling you. They all in on it.

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      How do jurisdictions work? How do laws and politics work?

      Hey don’t let the truth get in the way of a good story, amirite?

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      Would be nice if Mamdani commented on this, but there’s not much he can legally do as the mayor of NYC. (Not a fan of Mamdani btw, just remarking that elected officials have jurisdiction over specific territory.)

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          I’m not arguing that his hands are tied. I said “there’s not much he can legally do as the mayor of NYC”. Obviously it would be pretty based if he did like a direct action or something outside the law or even illegal…but people like that do not self-select to become elected politicians. I.e., it’s not a personal flaw with Mamdani specifically, it’s that all politicians self-select to be complicit in the bourgeois regime, and that politicians should not be considered vehicles of liberation.

          Again, I’m not defending Mamdani. I’m saying that he’s a non-extraordinary example of a politician, who intrinsically, impersonally deserves our scorn 🏴🚩

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            Right. I can’t do anything legally so I’ll just do nothing. Even though I’m usually some sort of political superhero. But only when it’s legal.

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      He used to be a NYS assembly member, and jumped ship to be NYC mayor. Source, I work in the NYS assembly.