I feel like it’s a spectrum that’s entirely dependent on how much wealth and connections you start with.

You can use aluminium foil and shape it into a nice hat

Nope, it doesn’t. That being said, there’s a group of people that essentially paid the dems to lose last election, and they don’t want to be seen as the problem that they are.

Blaming and shaming voters only helps that group. It doesn’t help us, it doesn’t help democracy, it doesn’t help the party. Alienating isn’t the best way to make them vote either. Tbh, it shouldn’t be up to them to cave first when it’s about genocide in any case.

It’s misspent energy and detracts from the pressure that the party should be facing. It’s as I said, a scapegoat built to avoid having to change.

The protest voters came after the dems turned an election into a circus with a side of genocide.

That’s what I mean by chaine of events, the protest voters ignoring etc and making mistakes came after the dems deliberate actions.

Ya I agree with all that. That’s mostly why it frustrates me to see people detract from the real problem by scapegoating the blame onto voters. The voters reacted badly but I’d rather pressure the ones that created the situation.

It’s like being stuck between a rock and a hard place. You choose to blame the guy that was stuck for making the wrong decision instead of the person that literally put the rock there.

The dems could have built a nice little path.

Those millions chose wrong but the small group was actually in charge of designing the choice. And through bribes, apathy and pure hatred, they decided to design the shittiest choice they could come up with. This wasn’t something forced on them like it was on the voters, and worse, they were the ones forcing it on the voters.

There’s a chaine of events here and you are choosing to ignore it.

Trump being shit does not mean kamala is good. Trump isn’t the bar.

The point is that kamala being only slightly better than trump is what lead to trump winning. It’s also clear that the dems aimed as low as they could on purpose, because they thought they had an easy win and could worry only about their masters holding the leash and not their voters.

It would have been a massive win, all they had to do was tell Israel to fuck off and offer their voters literally anything.

Trump won because the dems chose Israel over us.

Keep blaming voters and watch as the dems refuse to change since they know their media campaign is working.

Tony reminds me of Charlie kirk, in that he’s definitely been on camera letting a guy unload in his throat.

Thanks for the link, not trying to throw shade, I just don’t like YouTube.

Not punching down and trying to hold the actual root cause responsible.

Ya, it just feels like people would rather punch down than actual try to get the system to change a bit. Feels like pissing in the wind to go after voters, they aren’t the root cause.

Edit: I’m getting downvoted by zeroconnections alt accounts (fedded and robo)

There will never be a world in which I can agree that people sacrificing everyone’s future, while literally making worse the issue they claim to be prioritizing, is acceptable

Literally what the dems did last election, and they orchestrated the situation instead of just reacting to it.

I blame the corrupt politicians instead of ordinary folks making a bad decision, especially when the “bad” decision is the actual moral one (still bad in the scope of things, just morally better). You do you bro.

I’m saying the pro genocide zealotry coming from politicians is the actual problem. Being against genocide is far from ignorance.

I understand pragmatism as much as the next guy, and I did take that route, but you will not catch me dead saying the ones that drew the line at genocide are somehow in the wrong.

The party has to change and they were wrong to push the genocide. It’s as easy as that, and you are pushing against that change and encouraging their behavior.

And ya, people don’t say it outright but that’s exactly what it implies.

It’s first and foremost the people in charge of the party at fault for losing the election. They are the ones that need to change, not the voters.

This is why I see it as Israeli talking points. It’s basically saying “Kamala was right, it’s the voters that have to learn to stomach genocide, Israel calling the shots and the kleptocracy in general”.

The dems are supposed to be the good guys, yet they saw the low low bar that was trump and decided to aim just above it, and missed. We should be vocal about their fuck up, not giving them a pass. You are defending their actions by scapegoating them away.

It’s the job of political parties to get votes. They choose their platform. They thought they had an easy win and orchestrated the whole shit show.

Not voting for Harris was stupid, but the fault still lies with the party that chose Israel over you. If you keep enabling, we get the exact same energy next time. They are already trying to push kamala again FFS.

There’s such a huge overlap between users that push this and actual Zionists on Lemmy. It wasn’t the fuck genocide crowd that’s in the wrong but the party that dived into it instead of something sane like universal healthcare. What a fucking joke.

It’s almost like he is building the guillotine himself. I’m guessing this will be followed by a pardon eventually. Mob justice will be the only choice.

Kamala choosing genocide and the oligarchy over us led directly to this. Stop scapegoating and enabling them.

I voted for her but I hate the losers that defend her. The whole party basically gave us the finger. Kamala was Trump’s biggest ally, she threw the fight.

I thought the same thing right away and it makes the whole thing seem like a dystopian dark comedy. What a nightmare.

It talks mostly about one person who was dealing with PTSD before using it and an other who was diagnosed with bipolar disorder afterwards.

I’m guessing AI has some kind of amplifying effect but it’s not taking sane people and making them crazy. It’s more akin to lsd being a trigger for schizophrenics from what I understand.

Apple watch hits 98% agreement with the polar h10 while Garmin is only about 80%. It’s kind of a big difference. Sure most don’t really need it but that 18% means it can practically be used for medical studies, the Garmin not so much.

I hate apple but I was really impressed with the watch.

Sensor quality for heartrate is really good on the apple watch. There are a few studies about it. Garmin is really solid from what I can see though and ya, amazing battery life.