European leaders have now not only lost faith in Donald Trump’s U.S. presidency, but also in America’s hegemony as a whole. But short-term challenges make an immediate divorce unwise.
Yes, all weapons from USA are now bought at a 10% surcharge by NATO countries that continue to support Ukraine, and the coalition of the willing.
USA may help with things that cost them nothing, but as it is now, USA is profiteering extra from it’s allies on weapon deliveries to Ukraine.
Deliveries that are now even halted because of the war with Iran.
USA has been zero help since Trump became president, where USA actually has helped Russia more, for instance allowing them full access to Starlink. Which was finally ended earlier this year.
They made their ‘allies’ pay a 10% surcharge… and then spent the ammunition on a fruitless war with Iran instead. So, no, they are not sending weapons or ammunition any more.
The US must own major shares in EU weapon manufacturers. They knew the war was coming at the latest when Biden warned about it, but more likely when Russia sent the green men or even earlier. They will get their share.
The big picture is that China is taking over all markets and the EU is compensating by creating demand. It also creates the opportunity to go to war with China.
From an American perspective, the more Europe builds its own capacity the better because everything will be needed to fight China.
We are past that opportunity but the EU and Russia could have formed an economic union and could have become that challenger.
Instead China is about to become that challenger. The US cannot isolate China if Russia is delivering all necessary resources. So the US is using the Ukraine war to weaken Russia to change that somehow.
Buying the weapons is not a problem. Buying government bonds was the way of the EU to finance the US government weapons programs. With tariffs that has shifted to direct purchases.
So to the EU it looks like we just defend Ukraine. But the big winner is the US because they achieve their long-term goal, which turns the with into a for.
US diverting 20,000 missiles promised for Ukraine to the Middle East
So despite these missiles were already bought and paid for even at a 10% surcharge, Trump and Pentagon decided to not honor the deal.
There may still be deliveries, but USA has once again shown they are not a trustworthy ally, and they are not even a trustworthy supplier.
That’s one weapon system. It doesn’t change that the US is still a, or even the major weapon supplyer.
The rockets were more urgently needed in the middle east. The US can be blamed for many things but that decision is understandable.
USA has once again shown they are not a trustworthy ally,
No doubt about that.
There’s an old saying in Tennessee—I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee—that says, ‘Fool me once, shame on…shame on you.’ Fool me—you can’t get fooled again."
To know the history of the US and to expect to be treated differently than the Philippines is a risky move.
Furthermore, the EU won’t be stable for long. If Russa and China are eliminated, what will the EU be for the US strategically but a challenger?
EU and China are the most stable regions in the world. There is absolutely no chance China will be “eliminated”.
The Russian federation may collapse, but I can’t see how that would impact EU negatively? Russia has been trying to destabilize Europe for decades, not having that problem anymore, would definitely be an advantage for EU.
EU has strong cooperation with some of the former Soviet states, the same will probably happen if the Russian federation collapses. Making life a little bit easier for EU, and EU most likely making new friends.
The Russian federation may collapse, but I can’t see how that would impact EU negatively?
About 2001 Putin offered to create a joined economic zone between EU and Russia but the EU declined. Now the best case scenario would be Russia crumbling, and joining the EU. What’s the difference? Was Russia so corrupt that we couldn’t make it happen, even not with a plan that layed out steps to end the corruption?
The US doesn’t accept a challenger in Asia. The US is a naval power that controls the world by controlling the shipping lanes. If the EU would span over Asia no shipping would be needed. The US would lose their power. To prevent that the EU will be destroyed should it have the possibility to achieve that. It could already be happening.
Looks like the US is still fighting much of the war, but the EU is financing it.
In December, Budanov said Kyiv remained critically dependent on Washington for intelligence, including satellite imagery and early warning systems for ballistic missile launches.
A French defence ministry official also declined to comment directly on the president’s claims, but said much of the intelligence France provides is technical in nature.
Despite strained relations between Washington and Kyiv, there has been no indication that the United States has sharply reduced its intelligence support for Ukraine.
Europe finances 100%, but how much is used to buy weapons from the US? 50%?
The 34 countries of the Coalition of the Willing are financing “100 percent” of the resources granted to Kyiv, including financial support, Macron said.
Yes, the aid part. But they are still delivering the weapons.
the officials who are would likely better understand the value of Ukrainian territory.
I am sure they do.
Trump or rather the US elite have decided to end the trade deficit. Making the EU buy all these weapons balances all the products that the US needs from Europe.
They still need to beat Russia to isolate China. Having the EU fully committed to the war makes that easier.
Well, I’d rather believe Macron than your speculations. I think it’s pretty clear EU and allies cover all weapons purchases for Ukraine since Trump took office so nearly 2 years now I don’t understand what are you arguing about? It’s pretty clear and well documented
The sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity as the communications were not public, said several European countries will be affected, including in the Baltic region and in Scandinavia.
Some of the weapons in question were purchased by European countries under the Foreign Military Sales program, or FMS, but have not yet been delivered, the sources added.
How convenient they stopped weapon deliveries to countries bordering and closest to russia, Trump would never…
Not mine but a French defence ministry official and the head of Zelensky’s office
I don’t understand what are you arguing about?
That money is just money. The war still depends on US weapon systems.
How convenient they stopped weapon deliveries to countries bordering and closest to russia,
They need rockets right now in the middle east. I wouldn’t judge this as strategic neglect.
The US have to break down Russia to get China. Unless you see the US handing over the lead to China there is no need to worry about their interest in beating Russia. All the uncertainty is just there to put the Europeans in place.
Easy way to discard the problem, those kind of things are never announced. European Union and Ukraine aren’t concerned about deliveries just for the fun of it.
If i order a pizza and get a call they can’t deliver the pizza because they needed the cheese for the pasta, but also can’t give me my money back because when there is enough cheese again they still want to deliver the pizza, you would call that justified?
It’s the only pizza place in town. They know what they are doing. Don’t forget to say thank you when they finally deliver, even if the pizza is cold, or they will help you with your manners.
To be fair, if they deliver pasta and salads directly, which you have also ordered, I think it’s bad luck but at least you can start eating.
Has the USA stopped delivering weapons and stopped doing reconnaissance?
Yes, all weapons from USA are now bought at a 10% surcharge by NATO countries that continue to support Ukraine, and the coalition of the willing.
USA may help with things that cost them nothing, but as it is now, USA is profiteering extra from it’s allies on weapon deliveries to Ukraine.
Deliveries that are now even halted because of the war with Iran.
USA has been zero help since Trump became president, where USA actually has helped Russia more, for instance allowing them full access to Starlink. Which was finally ended earlier this year.
Fuck USA!!
So no, the US still delivers, they just made the EU pay for it.
They made their ‘allies’ pay a 10% surcharge… and then spent the ammunition on a fruitless war with Iran instead. So, no, they are not sending weapons or ammunition any more.
It just highlights the dependency on the US. To frame it as if the EU is fighting without the US gives the opposite impression.
Supporting Ukraine is peanuts compared to Rearm Europe, and none of that goes to the US.
The US must own major shares in EU weapon manufacturers. They knew the war was coming at the latest when Biden warned about it, but more likely when Russia sent the green men or even earlier. They will get their share.
The big picture is that China is taking over all markets and the EU is compensating by creating demand. It also creates the opportunity to go to war with China.
From an American perspective, the more Europe builds its own capacity the better because everything will be needed to fight China.
How would you call it? Fighting with or alongside the US? Or is it neither?
Trick question because I think we are fighting for the US.
The usual link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grand_Chessboard
We are past that opportunity but the EU and Russia could have formed an economic union and could have become that challenger.
Instead China is about to become that challenger. The US cannot isolate China if Russia is delivering all necessary resources. So the US is using the Ukraine war to weaken Russia to change that somehow.
Buying the weapons is not a problem. Buying government bonds was the way of the EU to finance the US
governmentweapons programs. With tariffs that has shifted to direct purchases.So to the EU it looks like we just defend Ukraine. But the big winner is the US because they achieve their long-term goal, which turns the with into a for.
The usual truncated quote. -.-
I hope that one day you will realize that there is no vision but only the goal to shape a corporate global community.
Just a couple of lines below:
So no, even when profiteering extra from it, USA is unreliable.
Why are you always like this? Always with something stupid that is clearly false?!?!
Do you have a source for that? They have haltet rockets for the Patriot system because there is a shortage. But there is no general stop like in 2025.
Recent news are about increased delivery.
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2026/05/21/nato-ministers-meet-as-us-plans-to-pull-away-from-european-security
https://thedefensepost.com/2026/05/06/us-jdam-er-ukraine/
I think I could demonstrate that it is correct. There are still deliveries. If that makes me look stupid I have to live with it.
https://abcnews.com/Politics/zelenskyy-us-moved-20000-missiles-fight-drones-ukraine/story?id=122662585
So despite these missiles were already bought and paid for even at a 10% surcharge, Trump and Pentagon decided to not honor the deal.
There may still be deliveries, but USA has once again shown they are not a trustworthy ally, and they are not even a trustworthy supplier.
That’s one weapon system. It doesn’t change that the US is still a, or even the major weapon supplyer.
The rockets were more urgently needed in the middle east. The US can be blamed for many things but that decision is understandable.
No doubt about that.
To know the history of the US and to expect to be treated differently than the Philippines is a risky move.
Furthermore, the EU won’t be stable for long. If Russa and China are eliminated, what will the EU be for the US strategically but a challenger?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grand_Chessboard
EU and China are the most stable regions in the world. There is absolutely no chance China will be “eliminated”.
The Russian federation may collapse, but I can’t see how that would impact EU negatively? Russia has been trying to destabilize Europe for decades, not having that problem anymore, would definitely be an advantage for EU.
EU has strong cooperation with some of the former Soviet states, the same will probably happen if the Russian federation collapses. Making life a little bit easier for EU, and EU most likely making new friends.
Without Russia, the US can shut down China with a naval blockade.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_island_chain
About 2001 Putin offered to create a joined economic zone between EU and Russia but the EU declined. Now the best case scenario would be Russia crumbling, and joining the EU. What’s the difference? Was Russia so corrupt that we couldn’t make it happen, even not with a plan that layed out steps to end the corruption?
The US doesn’t accept a challenger in Asia. The US is a naval power that controls the world by controlling the shipping lanes. If the EU would span over Asia no shipping would be needed. The US would lose their power. To prevent that the EU will be destroyed should it have the possibility to achieve that. It could already be happening.
https://www.dw.com/en/will-trump-pull-italy-austria-poland-hungary-from-eu/a-75134777
There are no longer delivered support between allies, they only now deliver sold products to their customers.
Before they were paid in mining rights https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine–United_States_Mineral_Resources_Agreement and Germany buying US government bonds.
After the tariffs, they don’t want a trade deficit, so the money is spent directly.
The war is still coordinated from their base in Wiesbaden. (German) https://www.hessenschau.de/politik/nach-trump-ankuendigung-wiesbaden-vorerst-nicht-von-us-truppenabzug-betroffen-v1,kein-truppenabzug-in-wiesbaden-100.html
France providing majority of intelligence for Ukraine
https://www.rfi.fr/en/france/20260116-macron-says-france-is-providing-two-thirds-of-ukraine-s-intelligence-information
Also US stopped all ait to Ukraine since Trump took office, and even withheld some thst was allocated under Biden
https://www.cfr.org/articles/how-much-us-aid-going-ukraine
Then he put tariffs on it so Europe has to pay more
https://www.ap.org/news-highlights/spotlights/2025/higher-us-tariffs-part-of-the-price-europe-was-willing-to-pay-for-its-security-and-arms-for-ukraine/
Then US stopped sending even those already paid for
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-officials-tell-european-countries-expect-weapons-delivery-delays-sources-say-2026-04-16/
Looks like the US is still fighting much of the war, but the EU is financing it.
Europe finances 100%, but how much is used to buy weapons from the US? 50%?
The US hasn’t stopped all weapon delivery.
VP said stopping US aid to Ukraine is their proudest achievement
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/vance-calls-ending-aid-ukraine-070611609.html
They still provide weapons, however I don’t know the terms of the new agreement passed last year.
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-us-weapons-prince-harry-f02a45281ba095d35cf5a198710be8e3
No they don’t provide weapons. They’re selling weapons to Europe who provide weapons.
That’s like saying the supermarket provides food to the poor instead of the soup kitchen.
Yes, the aid part. But they are still delivering the weapons.
I am sure they do.
Trump or rather the US elite have decided to end the trade deficit. Making the EU buy all these weapons balances all the products that the US needs from Europe.
They still need to beat Russia to isolate China. Having the EU fully committed to the war makes that easier.
Well, I’d rather believe Macron than your speculations. I think it’s pretty clear EU and allies cover all weapons purchases for Ukraine since Trump took office so nearly 2 years now I don’t understand what are you arguing about? It’s pretty clear and well documented
How convenient they stopped weapon deliveries to countries bordering and closest to russia, Trump would never…
Seems more complex
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-us-weapons-prince-harry-f02a45281ba095d35cf5a198710be8e3
Not mine but a French defence ministry official and the head of Zelensky’s office
That money is just money. The war still depends on US weapon systems.
They need rockets right now in the middle east. I wouldn’t judge this as strategic neglect.
The US have to break down Russia to get China. Unless you see the US handing over the lead to China there is no need to worry about their interest in beating Russia. All the uncertainty is just there to put the Europeans in place.
Yes
Yep, stopped over a year ago
They stopped paying for it, if we ignore the mineral deal, but they haven’t stopped delivering.
You’re right, they only indefinetely postponed delivering.
Do you have a source? They need the rockets in the middle east, but have they stopped delivering all weapons?
Easy way to discard the problem, those kind of things are never announced. European Union and Ukraine aren’t concerned about deliveries just for the fun of it.
Then what’s your source that they are concerned about more than the rocket delivery, which is justified?
If i order a pizza and get a call they can’t deliver the pizza because they needed the cheese for the pasta, but also can’t give me my money back because when there is enough cheese again they still want to deliver the pizza, you would call that justified?
It’s the only pizza place in town. They know what they are doing. Don’t forget to say thank you when they finally deliver, even if the pizza is cold, or they will help you with your manners.
To be fair, if they deliver pasta and salads directly, which you have also ordered, I think it’s bad luck but at least you can start eating.
Has the USA ever stopped making their money first and then let it look as if they were delivering weapons and helpful goods?
This goes back to America’s eventual involvement in WW2, which occured only after the UK let America raid all its patents and tech. Very mercenary.