Left as Center

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  • Freeing the manpower offsets production to other areas. A net gain for the countries, but the workers will still generate a similar amount of value from an economic standpoint. The gain is already taken into account into production prices, which themselves already include the countries productivity. On the scale of the union and all that is produced, the productivity increase from wind will be very very small.

    The rest is a great political gain, but won’t impact macroeconomics much, as energy markets are worldwide. Even the positive impact on the trade balance won’t change the numbers much (even as they change greatly the financial stability of EU).

    So it is a very real gain, and if you get all these arguments together it is pretty obvious, just the purely economic result when looking at the economy as a whole is way more subtle that “hey, free money”. It’s really just reallocation. (Macro and micro economics are really two different beasts).


  • The reductions in health can’t be predicted as a ratio on wind only, they depend on the overall switch to renewables, and what source is being offset to wind.

    Plus the numbers given are all completely off, they are just adding everything they can together without regards to tradeoffs (e.g. 1W of wind electricity is offset by 1W of non wind electricity so the added value is only the cost of imported gas or uranium or whatever, the jobs are not added but reassigned, the export value provided is wishful thinking…).

    Wind and solar with storage are a very good idea, I’m all for it. But these numbers are just corpo bullshit.

    Rule of thumb: direct investments from government have a multiplier ratio roughly between 1 & 5 depending on the economic situation. 5 is extreme, applicable only in big recession with money being spent directly towards the poorest.