• zwerg@feddit.org
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    4 days ago

    They made their ‘allies’ pay a 10% surcharge… and then spent the ammunition on a fruitless war with Iran instead. So, no, they are not sending weapons or ammunition any more.

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      It just highlights the dependency on the US. To frame it as if the EU is fighting without the US gives the opposite impression.

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          3 days ago

          The US must own major shares in EU weapon manufacturers. They knew the war was coming at the latest when Biden warned about it, but more likely when Russia sent the green men or even earlier. They will get their share.

          The big picture is that China is taking over all markets and the EU is compensating by creating demand. It also creates the opportunity to go to war with China.

          From an American perspective, the more Europe builds its own capacity the better because everything will be needed to fight China.

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          4 days ago

          Trick question because I think we are fighting for the US.

          The usual link:

          in the meantime, it is imperative that no Eurasian challenger emerges, capable of dominating Eurasia and thus also of challenging America

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grand_Chessboard

          We are past that opportunity but the EU and Russia could have formed an economic union and could have become that challenger.

          Instead China is about to become that challenger. The US cannot isolate China if Russia is delivering all necessary resources. So the US is using the Ukraine war to weaken Russia to change that somehow.

          Buying the weapons is not a problem. Buying government bonds was the way of the EU to finance the US government weapons programs. With tariffs that has shifted to direct purchases.

          So to the EU it looks like we just defend Ukraine. But the big winner is the US because they achieve their long-term goal, which turns the with into a for.

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              3 days ago

              I hope that one day you will realize that there is no vision but only the goal to shape a corporate global community.

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                I hope that one day you’ll realise that quoting a part of a sentence from a book you only know from Wikipedia and treating that as the undisputed truth, while ignoring all other parts left and right from it that collide with your set-in-stone world view proves nothing more than you don’t believe what you see but rather see what you believe.