• CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de
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    Germany shit their pants after Fukushima and knee jerked to shut down nuclear. How many Tsunami’s have hit Germany?

    Wrong. Nuclear phase out in Germany was decided first years before Fukushima.

    No, not debatable, nuclear is cheaper once infrastructure is paid off.

    How come waste disposal/storage is never accounted for in these calculations?

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      Wrong. Nuclear phase out in Germany was decided first years before Fukushima.

      By the Greens, in a way that could be and was undone. Merkel committed the majority to it.

      How come waste disposal/storage is never accounted for in these calculations?

      Permanent waste disposal is unnecessary. Keep doing what we do now and temporarily store it for the forseeable future.

      Ironically there would be no global warming if we had fully switched to nuclear energy in th 70ies. In a way, the Greens fought for the destruction of the environment.

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        Any law can be undone and no policiy is safe from a power shift.

        Don’t blame the Greens for climate change you dishonest nuisance.

        Nuclear was never the answer, just different problems.

        Ironically there would be no global warming if we had fully switched to nuclear energy in th 70ies.

        A main driver of climate change is the meat industry btw. How would nuclear change that?

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          Don’t blame the Greens for climate change you dishonest nuisance.

          Do you think the Greens are different than the SPD who sold out the worker protection? With cheap nuclear energy we could have had electrical cars in the 70ies. Not going fully nuclear is the reason that electricity was not so cheap that people started buying electric cars.

          The nuisance is that there is no rational reason for the Greens to be against nuclear energy unless they were influenced by the oil industry.

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            No, the nusance is a Russia luldefender smearing shit and blame over everything but the actual facts and derailing any discussion. I really don’t know why I haven’t blocked you yet and I correct that mistake now.

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      @CyberEgg @SaveTheTuaHawk
      Which calculations are you referring to?
      Nuclear waste disposal/storage is unavoidably accounted for in France as it is part of the budget and the responsibility of the generators of the waste themselves.

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        The calculations of operating and maintenance cost. I have yet to see calculations of those where the cost of waste disposal and management is listed. It’s not a small factor, in Germany it costs around 1 billion anually after the end of nuclear, plus the ongoing search for a permanent storage site.

        Also, this is about Germany, not France. But since you bring up France, what are the betting odds for how many NPPs are going to be shut down this summer due to overheating river systems? How much are the cost of downtime, the environmental damge done to these rivers etc?