I got an answer, give up and let the Chinese EVs in. or just reinvent public transportation for the future and stop wasting ungodly amount of resources for Ford F-150s everywhere
If we let the Chinese evs in they would out sell too many ice or hybrid cars and reduce our consumption of oil, as well as bring too much competition to our “free” market. We can’t have that, think of all the money spent in lobbying to keep us dependent on oil! And people might not buy electric cars from their favourite eccentric Nazi if there’s an alternative and that absolutely cannot fly! Ugh it’s the same story over and over again with American companies. Perform like dog shit, piss and moan that sales are tough because of those pesky foreign doing it better, tarrifs the competition out of competition and beg big govt for a nice bail out. Been happening over and over since at least the 60s in at least automotive industry. People who use USA as an example of capitalism = bad are totally missing the point that USA is socialism for rich people at the expense of capitalism, as a real capitalist would love to buy BYD in USA. Capitalism needs to be constrained with regulation sure, but not in a way that benefits your “representatives” favourite private corpo
Amen to all of that.
US won’t have an answer. Obama invested in battery research, Trump shut it down, Biden invested in battery manufacture, Trump shut it down. During this time, Chinese industry secured a supply chain from raw ore mining to making batteries with patents. US has no IP in batteries.
Same thing is happening with drug discovery, it’s all China for the next decade.
The US also has huge trade deficits in mangoes and sports shoes. So what?
Only idiots like Trump think all bilateral trade flows should balance.
Seems like the simple solution is to buy their cars and focus on producing something else.
Sure they do. It’s double down on ICE and block the import of foreign EV.
The US government is falling all over itself to fellate the oil and gas industry to protect their profits. They have blocked EVs in every way possible.
China doesn’t give a fuck about the US Church of Profits and is building renewable energy and EVs faster than the rest of the world combined.
The west has already lost. China won. China will be in charge in the very near future.
Fuck it, at this point lets give China a shot. They have issues, lots of them, but Europe isn’t going to compete any time soon, and at least China doesn’t switch between telling you you’re friends, and stabbing you in the back every 4-8 years.
They are just as profit-driven as US corporations are. They are also leading the world in coal mining.
And I remember people singing the same song about Japan in the late 70s as they do about China now. Extrapolation works perfectly in a world with no limiting factors.
SHOCKING REVELATION: US lacks clue
It’s over tbh. U can be a genius with 50 phds this trajectory was like this for decades
Well, we’ve artificially inflated the price of steel, electronics and consumable resources like fuel and electricity required to build cars in the US. I can’t imagine that we would even be competitive building anything right now.
Don’t forget years of short sighted manufacturing enabled by the insane dealership system.
And, I guess enough research and development to realize that you’re a decade or so behind the competition.
Oh It does… They prevent China EV makers from partaking in their “free market” and force you domestic suckers to keep slurping up the status-quo.
Was a loyal Ford (european) customer but I don’t want an SUV version of the mustang, a massive truck or whatever the new ‘Capri’ is (its not a Capri).
And why are they all so ugly??
Wtf happened to Ford??
Ford seems to be taking from Tesla’s design language and trying to mix it with their own and the results are really fucking ugly
Its awful. Its like they cut their design team and got AI to do the work instead.
Now I think about it I wouldn’t be surprised if thats actually what happened. But instead of just car design it was their whole product strategy.
The solution is putting their fingers in their ears, screaming “No one wants EVs anyway” “America no1!” “USA! USA! USA!”.
You know, same solution they’ve always used.
Of course not, the current US government is actively hostile toward EVs and green energy. Why do all these headlines frame this as if it’s so surprising?
US: shoots itself in the foot “WHY ISN’T CHINA LIMPING AS HARD AS I AM?!?!?!?”
If by “the U.S.” you mean Bonespurs, not having answers goes without saying. But that aberration won’t keep wasting oxygen forever.
I got to ride in a Li Auotmotive i9 Ultra the other day and it was amazing. Ridiculously luxurious and far ahead of tesla. Cheaper too. It had a fridge and microwave, and big screens everywhere. Its Lidar view of everything around the car was vastly superior to Tesla’s, and it has about 15x the computing power of my model 3.
Guess what, fuck off with fridges and microwaves in cars.
nothing wrong with them if they’re optional
What if I really want a fridge in my car?
No, our answer is that EVs are dumb and that oil is the only energy source that matters in this century and every century to come.
