• EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com
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    3 days ago

    More related to our leadershit consistently making shitty decisions. This is but one example in a long-established pattern.

    People have fucking had enough.

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        2 days ago

        Maybe you should ask someone in one of those nations? I can only speak on behalf of where I live and have personal experience with.

        My guess would be that even absent the dangers of school shootings and overly aggressive government agents, they still face considerable economic pressures that prompt them to reconsider. Housing prices being commonly cited, with many parts of the developed world being worse than the U.S.

        Bottom line is that for most people opting out, there are multiple factors adding up. If you’re looking for the one thing, you will be disappointed.

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          So why do poor people in those countries have more children? You’re theory simply doesn’t add up. Of course there are multiple factors. If you look closely I didn’t name any factors, you did. And the factor you named is simply not that important. Even if you eliminate it and look only at extremely wealthy people they still don’t have birth rates above replacement rates.

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            2 days ago

            So you actually expect me to believe that safe schools (presence or absence) isn’t something that would affect your decision? If you really are claiming this, then I would be concerned about your priorities.

            If this isn’t something that is important to you, I’m not going to try and convince you because that is well beyond the scope of this discussion.

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              2 days ago

              My decision about having kids? Of course not. Because I don’t want kids. I never liked kids, never wanted them, didn’t have them, not going to have them. For me the reasons are:

              1. I don’t want kids

              2… That’s it

              Why are you concerned about my priorities? Recent data from Poland I’ve seen show that majority of people without kids think like me. They simply don’t want them. Some people can’t afford them. Small fraction are concerned about the state of the world, climate change and so on.

              Just to be clear, safe schools are important to me because general safety, education and social wellbeing is important to me. Does it affect my decisions about kids? Not at all.