• Fizz@lemmy.nz
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    Hassan and Cenk do paid agitprop for the UK’s adversaries. Why should any country let them come over and tour around the country undermining the government and bolstering conspiracy and driving extremists on both sides. Bet there here to do their favourite thing, undermine a liberal left government so the far right can win.

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      Hassan and Cenk do paid agitprop for the UK’s adversaries.

      Considering the UK is supporting genocide, maybe the UK’s adversaries are in the right here, and agitprop is good because it might put a stop to genocide?

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      The UK is not under a liberal left government, and if you think Labor is even close to not being far right you’re actually deluded.

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        “Labour is far right”, you heard it here first folks.

        Sure, they’re not left enough by any definition, but far right and not even close to not being far right?

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          What does the following fall under? As a fun game I’ve included three quotes or headlines regarding Nigel Farage, and six regarding Starmer or the labor government. I can guarantee you will not be able to pick out the Farage ones (I have paraphrased to make googling them and cheating that way difficult.

          Answered Yes under oath when asked whether he knew his staffer continued a long-term relationship with Jeffery Epstein after Epstein’s 2008 conviction.

          According to an FIDH report they have repeatedly lobbied for legislation and policy that directly supports and upholds the Israeli genocidal state, even when said policies would directly harm the UK and its citizens.

          His attacks on Palestinian protestors — and protestors in general have been called a driving voice behind the single greatest regression in democracy in the UK since the Thatcher government.

          He has stated Israel “has the right” to withhold, as well as disable all domestic sources of, power and water for Gaza.

          He has “transformed the labour party to a place where Jews are welcome again” – t(his one is easy, just hilariously direct.)

          During his campaigning he has directly called into question the nationalization of the NHS and has argued limited to full privatization would directly benefit UK citizens.

          During his campaign and through his time as a politician, he has directly and consistently worked against the Trans agenda, even when it was unpopular to do so.

          His advisors have been anonymously quoted as saying “he does not believe trans women are women” and has publicly stated there was a ‘desperate need’ for trans people to identify themselves in public spaces as trans.

          He has been quoted multiple times as saying the UK’s “Open Border’s” Policy needs to be ended and that it should not be so easy for “asylum seekers” to be granted asylum.

          And here’s one more for free:

          He has stated the “Open Borders” Policy from previous governments has been a squalid chapter in British history and has left “stains” on the “british way of life.” In the same vein, he has rallied against “immigrant rape gangs” using “legal loopholes” to come into the country.

          spoiler

          Not a single one was about Farage.

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            I like this game. You missed the one where he recreated Enoch Powell’s “Rivers of blood” speech.

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          “Labour is far right”, you heard it here first folks.

          Oh come on, hahahahaha you honestly think Labour is not a rightwing party?

          facepalm

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            It certainly isn’t left enough, under certain conditions I might agree that it is center-right but it absolutely isn’t right-wing or far-right

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          On migration and trans rights they’re cleaving pretty right wing.

          On economics, they’re still quite centre-left-ish.

          And since everything is polarised these days, they get to be centre-left to the right, and moderate right to the left.

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      His name is 5 letters long and is right there in the post title and you still can’t get it right. Reminds me of Fox News hosts intentionally stumbling over and mispronouncing “Mamdani”. At some point it stops being fat fingers or illiteracy and is just bare islamophobia.

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        Dude one of my friends last names is Hasid but my phone always autocarrots to Hassid. You are jumping at shadows.

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        That’s just absurd. If I spell Nat Turner “Natt Turner” does that somehow make me anti-black?

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          Intentionally so? Yes, if you’re being intentionally disrespectful about a black person’s identity that does put you under scrutiny of being anti-black. Is this is a difficult concept for you?

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            How are you certain of OP’s deliberate misspelling the name, though? It seems to me like you’re looking to strip OP of their credibility by any means possible, up to and including frivolous accusations of racism.

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              They’ve made posts as of 30 minutes ago, that comment has been up for 11 hours, they’ve neither replied or corrected it. I wasn’t born yesterday, I’m done erring on the side of accident with regards to racism and genocide, you can continue bending backward for them if you like. I’ve seen your statements elsewhere in this thread, I know where you stand.

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                Honestly I generally just block people who accuse others of racism over typos. Fediverse is so much better without y’all

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                Time zones you moron. I went to sleep and ive been at work since then. Its just because I work with a guy called hassan and I’m used to seeing his name spelt that way.

                But its even crazier to equate misspelling Hasans name with racism or genocide. You are a nutcase and Hasan wilI never see your white knighting.

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                    I fixed it in my last comment. No point in correcting the original. Its not like Hasan deserves a single ounce of respect hes on the same level as Candice Owens.

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      they’re* When you make dumb mistakes on something so easy it makes you look like you’re not well read. If your inane take wasn’t enough, that definitely gives it away.