IIRC there’s either more Jews in NYC than in Israel, or it’s the place with most jew (except Israel). So it kinda makes sense. Just like there’s a lot of Cubans in Miami. They probably have cuba-related parties too.
You may not like Israel. But it’s still a country. Immigrants making parades of their countries is normal when a city has a big population of said country.
Usually those parades are organized by the immigrants though, and just receive the help/blessing of the city. Idk if this one is organized by NYC or by the Jews.
Immigrants celebrating their country of origin is very different from political parties doing it.
You’re making me sound like I support Israel, I don’t. But it should be up to NYC and its population whether they should support this parade. Whether people outside NYC like Israel or not shouldn’t matter.
For example my city is very pro-palestine. So there are pro-palestine parades/protests and no pro-israel ones.
Otherwise, there would be no country-parades. Since there is no country that isn’t hated by some people.
I don’t like the actions of the State of Israel or the Apartheid elements in its Constitution. If it wasn’t for that I wouldn’t care about them either way since it would be just another normal country.
As for the rest, your argument fails miserably because, well, the core things which you imply are false:
Most Jews living in NYC are not immigrants.
Israel is not the country of origin of most Jews in NYC, quite the opposite - it’s a nation that aims for all Jews to go live there.
In fact the only way of twisting the objective reality to fit that idea that Jews in NYC are Israeli Immigrants it’s through the Zionist ideological view that all Jews are inherently Israeli, (an “interesting” take for New Yorkers given that part of the Jewish Community living in New York activelly believes for religious reasons that Israel should not exist).
So either way you’re either massivelly distorting the truth to build an “argument” on those falsehoods, in which case that’s all bullshit OR you genuinelly believe the Zionist (and very anti-semitic) idea that all Jews are not citizens of anywhere else but Israel (hence those in NYC are immigrants from Israel) in which case you’re making my point that the parade is for the political ideology of Zionism.
Fair point, I understand and agree. But I’m also never ever going to pass up on an opportunity to make the distinction between zionism and judaism explicit.
As a non new yorker, why is there a israel day parade in the first place?
Its an American sponsored colony.
IIRC there’s either more Jews in NYC than in Israel, or it’s the place with most jew (except Israel). So it kinda makes sense. Just like there’s a lot of Cubans in Miami. They probably have cuba-related parties too.
But judaism =/= zionism. Norman Finkelstein lives in New York. I assure you he also does not attend this parade.
Also there is literally an entire section within Judaism who believe for religious reasons that Israel should not exist.
I know. But just based on numbers, if there are a lot of Jewish people, there’s probably lots of Zionists.
Even if just 10% of NYC Jews are Zionists, that’s a lot of Zionists.
Does NYC organise parades for the Democratic Party or the Republican Party?
Because that would be the equivalent of organising parades to celebreate Zionism because there’s a lot of Zionists in NYC.
You may not like Israel. But it’s still a country. Immigrants making parades of their countries is normal when a city has a big population of said country.
Usually those parades are organized by the immigrants though, and just receive the help/blessing of the city. Idk if this one is organized by NYC or by the Jews.
Immigrants celebrating their country of origin is very different from political parties doing it.
You’re making me sound like I support Israel, I don’t. But it should be up to NYC and its population whether they should support this parade. Whether people outside NYC like Israel or not shouldn’t matter.
For example my city is very pro-palestine. So there are pro-palestine parades/protests and no pro-israel ones.
Otherwise, there would be no country-parades. Since there is no country that isn’t hated by some people.
I don’t like the actions of the State of Israel or the Apartheid elements in its Constitution. If it wasn’t for that I wouldn’t care about them either way since it would be just another normal country.
As for the rest, your argument fails miserably because, well, the core things which you imply are false:
In fact the only way of twisting the objective reality to fit that idea that Jews in NYC are Israeli Immigrants it’s through the Zionist ideological view that all Jews are inherently Israeli, (an “interesting” take for New Yorkers given that part of the Jewish Community living in New York activelly believes for religious reasons that Israel should not exist).
So either way you’re either massivelly distorting the truth to build an “argument” on those falsehoods, in which case that’s all bullshit OR you genuinelly believe the Zionist (and very anti-semitic) idea that all Jews are not citizens of anywhere else but Israel (hence those in NYC are immigrants from Israel) in which case you’re making my point that the parade is for the political ideology of Zionism.
Fair point, I understand and agree. But I’m also never ever going to pass up on an opportunity to make the distinction between zionism and judaism explicit.