• Erna_muse@lemmy.zip
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    1 month ago

    I think we need to look at housing as a technology to spread as opposed to an investment to horde. Then do the same thing with utilities.

    Tons of reasons not to do it but it makes society less dependent on employment.

    • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      the issue with housing is that other people hate other people. they don’t want more people living around them. they hate growth. they think people should live ‘somewhere else’ than their town/city/neighborhood.

      i live in a city with over 120K people. if a housing project goes up that that adds say, 20 units for 30-40 people, people FREAK OUT. and oppose it and usually it gets downzied to like 12 units for 20 people, and only then it’s approved for development. this is in already very dense city, it’s worse in less dense places. anytime a major project, for like 500+ units is proposed, it has to be downsized by like 50% before anyone will approve it because the citizens REVOLT. they HATE new housing.

      the last major development in my urban area added 8000 jobs, and 500 units of housing, and the major opposition was to the housing, all the feedback was ‘no new housing, but more new jobs’. the plan with the highest approval from the citizens was the one with 10,000 new jobs, and 0 new housing. and th eone with 5000 jobs and 1000 units of housing, was opposed like 90%. and the plan that was approved only had a 1 vote margin…

      this is what people want. they democratically oppose new housing at every opportunity.

  • Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
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    1 month ago

    What bugs me about this is it’s always been their plan, for hundreds of years.

    Why is the average person so stupid and apathetic about this.

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      1 month ago

      the average person doesn’t think they are working class, they think that’s what poor people are.

      my dad made a working class salary his entire life, but he always told us we were middle class and ‘better’ than those working-class idiot losers.

      average people admire rich people and want to be them, and they hate working class people.

      i’m a middle class person now, but i live around a lot of upper middle class people, and regularly they let me know I’m subhuman scum in their eyes. and working-class people i grew up with, think i’m a rich effete snob with my graduate degree and my expensive coffee and my compact car.

      people generally are much more focused on the differences around them and feeling they are better than their neighbors is a far bigger concern than what rich people are doing. the person living across the street from you gets more upset about you getting a nicer car than them then they do about jeff bezo’s wedding.