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    Looks like Disney’s ability to keep milking their latest cute plush toy is coming to an end.

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        Honestly a series following Yoda over his life showing the decline of the Jedi order would be pretty good. I’m actually kinda surprised that wasn’t a thing in the EU canon, though we did get a couple comics featuring young Yoda. Imagine how much worse of a blender Yoda in his prime would be, in EU canon he hefts a mini gun on his back and fucks up some droids and in one of the first clone wars (2008) episodes he literally blends a bunch of B1 droids in a tank.

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          Lucas was against exploring Yoda because that would diminish his mystique.

          In a world way worse Yuuzhan Vong would’ve been Yoda species as the invading force from unknown regions of space.

          I think the best way to deal with Yoda is to keep him as far as possible from current Star Wars soap opera framework and maintain his stories strictly in the realm of myths that might or might not be true so that every story is standalone and self-contained. something like Samurai Assassin series used to do for example

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            Fair enough, still wish we could get a name for his damned species even if it was just some Old Republic identification code or something.

            Also now I’m trying to think of how to deal with an invading force of Yodas species, all I’m coming up with is Base Delta Zero or 40k exterminatus namely virus bombs.

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              It would’ve been way funnier if Yoda actually turned out to be the last representative of the Sith species. Now that’s what i call a pointless rug pull.

              (Wookiepedia got pictures of OG Siths as these guys with handlebar moustache like facial features - which technically means Hulk Hogan could’ve been a lore accurate Sith.)


              Star Wars going full 40k with the Yoda Invasion would’ve been lit.

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    I didn’t hear about it until I saw it on the drive in billboard.

    That said, I’ve not finished season 2, but I loved season 1 enough to get the pinball game :)

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      Yeah I’d only barely heard of it, and even then I thought it was just what they were naming the new season of the TV show. Marketing department fucked up.

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        Had a big bonus that year. It happened to coincide. Never happen today in this market :)

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    It wasn’t terrible. Not great, but not terrible. Worth watching if you’re streaming, but not theater worthy.

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    It was such a fucked up mix of genres. Half the movie people are getting their face ripped off by monsters and the other half is watching a fuckin teletubbies episode???

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    Not surprised, it was poorly marketed and requires you to watch three seasons worth of content to have context for.

    It really should have just been season 4 of Mandolorian.

    I will be seeing it because I have seen every Star Wars movie in theaters and I don’t want that streak to be broken.

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        Saw it, the movie’s pretty good, I’d be hard pressed to say it’s that much above average, but worse Star Wars movies exist. (I firmly hold that the worst Star Wars movie is Attack of the Clones, and the second worst is Last Jedi, third worst is Solo, with the rest being of equal quality more or less)

        Anyway I like that we see Grogu being pro-active in it.

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    Limp and low effort. Actually kind of impressive to make a movie with so much going on be boring. The writing was like a rough draft with placeholder dialogue. Legendary actors giving wooden performances. Oof.

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    This is actually the only good star wars movie made by Disney that I’ve seen.

    I only saw it bcz it was a friend’s birthday and they were going already.

    I had super low expectations going in, and saw a terrible movie trailer. That actually made me think the movie was going to be really bad.

    Nope, turns out the trailer was just bad.

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      True and If I do have money to spend on a movie I want something new and good not more milking of starwars witch has become slop.

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      The cost to go with a movie with one friend is around $30-35 where I live. This assumes buying no concessions.

      The cost to buy that movie on a physical format (assuming it releases on one) is $20-30 depending on whether that format is DVD or Blu-Ray.

      A lot of folks right now could not afford either option. But even for those who can, the math doesn’t math on movie theaters.

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        And while concessions have been overpriced forever, they’ve really gone nuts with it recently. I was gonna buy a large bag of popcorn, a bottled water, and 2 sodas and it was gonna be like 50 bucks.

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    I wonder why people are still watching this stuff. Maybe it is the crowd that wants to be able to say “I’ve seen all Star Wars movies” as the sole motivation.

    Star Wars stopped being interesting a long time ago.

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      As a lifelong Star Wars fan, I enjoyed it. I thought it was fun, the soundtrack was great, the environments were really detailed and cool. The writing was mediocre, but it’s for kids ultimately, so I don’t expect it to be super complex - and it was still better than the Super Mario Galaxy movie for sure. There are more adult-oriented Star Wars content like Andor which is also great, but the kid-friendly content is also good fun if you just accept that it’s content designed for kids!

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        I’ll second this. Andor is incredible.

        I was irrationally angry when George sold his IP to the Mouse. The original trilogy and expanded universe from my childhood is still my Star Wars.

        Disney was the wrong choice.

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            Rogue One was leaps and bounds above the sequel trilogy but I would still say it’s not a great movie. Once it gets up to speed and the whole cast has been properly introduced, it’s fantastic, but it takes so much of the movie until it gets to that point. Even as a fan, the first half of the movie is a slog where the main character has very little agency or drive, and they’re basically just being brought along instead of driving the plot. It’s a movie that, in my opinion, starts poorly and ends amazingly.

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          I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: I’ll fight a bitch that claims anything other than Andor is the smartest and most watchable serialized offering on any streaming medium, with arguably the most compelling characters in the entire Star Wars arc outside of the original trilogy (hat tip to @furzegelo and @OldQwertybastard).

          Thank you one and all; now I’m off to go assault dickhead @crt_alt_esc for not knowing his/her (meager and uninformed) place.

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                I watched a random clip on youtube: a ship with lateral lightsabers cutting TIE fighters. I’m not watching more of it.

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                  I don’t think that’s a good scene to judge it on, personally.

                  As someone who hates modern star wars, and only mildy enjoys the original trilogy, I thought Andor was extremely compelling, and some of the finest sci-fi, or fiction in general, that I’d ever seen (and I am very picky).

                  It is, in essence, a brilliantly written rendition of an oppressed people building an effective and realistically depicted underground resistance movement against a fascist regime which happens to be attached to the star wars IP (which it uses well, aesthetically). So more of a tightly written political/espionage thriller than it is traditional space opera.

                  The quality of the writing is far, far beyond any other star wars movie or show, going very much into the territory of Where Eagles Dare, The Godfather, or or 3 Days of The Condor. The dialog is excellent, the plots excellent, the pacing excellent, I have very few complaints.

                  I think the quality of it comes from the writer Tony Gilroy putting a tremendous amount of effort into researching historical revolutions and drawing from those, which makes it feel very grounded.

                  If you dislike modern star wars, I really implore you to give Andor a chance, it makes none of the mistakes of modern Disney star wars, in fact it could not be more different.

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              There’s only 3 original star wars unless you’re counting the ewok movies and the holiday special. The prequels were twenty years later and are not original star wars.

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              lol. Ok princess.

              I must have struck a nerve implying that Jar Jar Binks might have less character depth than any of the Andor cast.

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        Snuck past the Disney execs somehow. Or else they said “y’know what let’s make one prestige show for the Emmy bait.”

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          It benefits greatly by not being about the Jedi and the Force primarily.

          In which case it’s a sci-fi universe that lets us combine space tech with 1970s and 80s aeethetics.

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            It benefits greatly by not being about the Jedi and the Force primarily

            I cannot tell you how happy I was when Luthen turned out NOT to be a secret Jedi… omg that would have sucked if he pulled out a lightsaber at the end to save everyone

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              I didn’t even consider that scenario, it would have ruined the entire show for me, thank god they kept that kind of execs away from this show

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        I find most of the shows were good in their own way.

        The Acolyte had some of the best lightsaber combat in a live action show or movie that I’ve seen.

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        Andor is strong mid at best… it’s literally the exact same story as the first movies. So incredibly uncreative… still, miles better than all the other star wars crap from disney.

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          Surely you jest.

          Season 2, episodes 7, 8, and 9 showcase some of the most compelling sequences on TV. Diego Luna, a man under enormous pressure ready to come apart at the seams, run by master manipulator Stellan Skarsgård. Andy Serkis. Forrest Whittaker. Empire baddies Denise Gough and Ben Mendelssohn. What about Genevieve O’Reilly as Mon Mothma, who gives a masterful portrayal of brittle grace over a thinly-veiled nervous breakdown?

          There was very little room left in the storyline chronology for a third season, and I suppose I could just watch Rogue One yet again, but knowing that doesn’t ameliorate my disappointment that we don’t get any more Andor.

          Andor stayed true to the original Star Wars ethos. Rogue One as well, aspects of Solo, and some elements of the Mandalorian. Best Star Wars offerings outside the original trilogy screenplays hands down. Fight me.

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      As a massive long time fan, I’d say the issue is Star Wars was originally a post-war film, and it’s been deliberately held back from evolving to keep it recognizable. As a result, it doesn’t resonate with audiences the way it used to. It’s just not relevant any more. Andor was a great example of what they can do within the Star Wars galaxy to be relevant.

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      And I fear that the lesson Hollywood will learn from this is that we don’t like Star Wars, rather than that we don’t like endless half-assed slop. Disclaimer: I have not seen this movie so I don’t know if it’s actually good.

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          CEO: Just produce double the half-ass and we’ll have whole asses!

          Artists: But it’s still slop.

          CEO: Wow, whole ass…

          Artist: Seriously, fuck this guy.

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        Star Wars has been “half-assed slop” for 49 years. Some of its better than others, but the there’s plenty in the OT to hate on if you want to hate. I love it anyway.

        The movie was good. As good as any compareable segment of the D+ show. See it in the theatre if you can afford to.

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    There’s a new Star Wars movie?

    Bros, you killed the franchise with all the mediocre shit you pumped out. You bought an IP, you drove it into the ground by shoveling out a bunch of cash-grab trash, and now you wonder why people aren’t lining up for your new movie?

    Are you kidding? There is literally no industry in which this strategy works. walmart might as well put out a special new “locally made” brand on their shelves, and marvel at why people aren’t falling over themselves to buy it.

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    The Mandalorian was initially meant to be a side series for fans. It was lower budget, practical effects, and little to no core characters from the main franchise. Unfortunately, basically every other Star Wars IP fell flat on its face since then, so by default, The Mandalorian is now the flagship Star Wars storyline. The movie was good as a nice side story for fans, it was bad as a franchise-running blockbuster. It’s really amazing how many bad decisions Disney had to make to end up here.

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      The way the Boba Fett series flopped and tried, repeatedly, to draft on the Mandalorian’s success within 1 session…ooofda.

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        I was never a Boba Fett fan, I thought he was highly overrated and a big “So what?” who managed to sell merch.

        And even I hate Book of Boba Fett with a passion for how badly they fucked up his character.

        How the hell does someone who served as one of Jabba’s Right Hand Men act this incompetently as a crime lord?

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        Correct. They even produced a behind the scenes segment showing them filming in the volume with light changes, etc.

        What the volume is supposed to alleviate is post-production. What they filmed in that scene is what we’ll see most of the time - no need to generate and color match the background. Think of all The Avengers scenes that were green screen - tons of post production work had to be done for every scene.