We need to shut it all down for weeks before they realize we’re serious. But to foster change we’d have to shut it down for months.
That’s why a Government Shutdown makes much more sense. Europeans are always pushing us for a General Strike, but that won’t work here. For one thing, many employers will just fire people for not showing up that day. The rest will just dock their pay. In Europe, workers have protections, unions, and worker friendly governments. We have none of that here.
Whatever economic impact will be minimal. Whatever people didn’t buy that day, they’ll buy the next.
A General Strike hurts us, and is intended to make the government feel empathy for us, and give us what we want. The MAGA government won’t budge after weeks of a government shutdown, you think they’ll budge after a General Strike of ONE DAY?
IN America, we have a mechanism that European nations don’t have - we can literally turn off the government a spigot, and EVERYTHING comes to a halt very quickly. We keep going to work, collecting our paychecks, stimulating the economy, but they stop their atrocities, for the most part.
We can do that, Europe can’t. General Strikes will work for them, they won’t work for us. Why hurt ourselves, when we can hurt those who are causing the problems?
MAGA isn’t going to act to alleviate our pain, exactly the opposite. They are sadistic, if they see someone in pain, their very first impulse is to increase that pain.
But inflict pain on them, and they scream like the cowardly little weenies they are. And nothing is more painful to these corrupt traitors that taking away their money. Let’s make them scream real loud.
As if a company will wire 100% of their staff when nobody is showing up.
Bullshit
COVID killed the economy in a couple days
The corpos are doing what we should be doing.
Beautifully coincides with May Day: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Workers'_Day
They are trying to co-opt May Day and neuter it
so at least 109 people can’t read between the lines
Nationwide protests
Tankies on lemmy: “That’s performative! They need to do a general strike!”
Protest organizers organize a general strike on international labour day
Tankies on lemmy: “they’re co-opting and neutering international labour day!!1!”
What the fuck do you think they should do on may day, twiddle their dicks and doompost about capitalism?
It’s a fucking general strike, organized by a decentralized movement of civil sector and labour organizations! How in that twisted and dissonant mind of yours do you justify calling that “co-opting” and “neutering” the labour movement?!?
go watch netflix and get some fast food
Huh? Dude, you’re pathetic. Are you seriously going through an entire month-old post just to respond to every comment trying to stir shit up?
The bullshit you’re spewing doesn’t even make any sense.
Then maybe you can enlighten us how that 2 hour general strike earlier this month had made any impact
It is not a general strike, it’s another meaningless, no demands, liberal circle jerk. BlueMAGA is as worthless as MAGA and both defend their own oppression
You have the online voice of a angel.
That’s what Labor Day was for. You seem very confused. Did you get hit in the head recently?
May Day is for recognizing labor. The US oligarchy is using that date to redefine what that day was designed for by using terms that are gaining reactions in the US, coopting them so they can neutralize the impact. They are doing to labor what MAGA communists are doing to neuter communism with disenfranchised conservatives.
So what do you propose people do then?
You will notice that the people like that will never have an answer for this question.
says the fed or useful idiot… lemmy is for news and bitching and memes and learning… not to leak opsec… They also told you… you need to clean your eye ears… it need to be longer (thats what your mom said) and organized via militant labor unions in which we don’t have. We are in uncharted waters or modern day feudalism. Really what is disheartening is denile delusion and hope.
FYI to others: I have this tankie from Lemmy.ml tagged as believing China doesn’t ban images of Xi as Winnie the Pooh, lol.
All I ever see them be is antagonistic, sowing apathy, defeatism, or trying to egg people with stochastic rhetoric (but never themselves, of course).
Maybe your time would be better spent worrying about your own country?
Traveler threatened with jail or fine had phone forcefully searched and was denied entry after bald photo of JD Vance found.
Only state approved journalists allowed in White House press pool.
Pentagon removes internal press media offices.
Protestors charged with terrorism for wearing black clothing and handing out pamphlets.
US builds concentration camps for those disappeared by masked secret police, after killing citizens in street.
Masked secret police collecting DNA, face scans, license plates from peaceful protestors, for use in creating a database of “domestic terrorists”.
Trump wishes to imprison additional US citizens in El Salvadoran gulag after sending 280 immigrants.
Police arrest and attack citizens with chemical weapons, batons, and projectiles, injuring over 300,000 people per year.
US bankrolls, supplies, and provides troops to apartheid state conducting genocide.
But China (7000km away) is big meanie and if I can’t have pooh photo (if I ever travel 7000km to China (which I hate because pooh photo)), I will literally die.
Omgawd you are so smart but these downvote turds don’t think so.
Are you assuming that commenter is american?
Also, nobody here is claiming that america is good. We’re literally here to discuss how drastically things in the US need to change.
The comment you’re replying to was calling out the hypocrisy of someone trying to detract from the protests going on. Denying the authoritarianism of one country doesn’t help oppose authoritarianism in another. Two mutually antagonistic governments can be authoritarians at the same time, and it’s perfectly valid to criticize both.
So your long list of facts, while they would be relevant as a top-level comment had you framed them as “reasons why we’re protesting,” are really just a thinly-veiled red herring that you’re attempting to use to defend someone who’s attempting to derail conversation about the protest movement.
Are you in, or in the way?
I focus on the devil I know… I mean the left is still on its knees and is yet to learn how to walk. Shorthand: Get your house in order. … israel is commiting a genocide but chynah so mean. 🙁💧 I am so ready to go to CHINA
Necroposting to resurrect a dead argument that was bad-faith derailing from the start?
You’re on a post that’s literally about people protesting the US government, so I don’t see why you feel the need to rush in and defend China.
Multiple state actors can be repressive, by the way. Go ask anyone in Hong Kong, Taiwan, Philippines, Tibet, Xinjiang, or hell even Vietnam what they think of the PRC.
Its the fragile little bird again. Hows that boot taste?
Damn dude, you ever reconsider a position after being ratio-ed that hard?
As if I care what BlueMAGA thinks
yes yes bluemagga sucks… 4 decades on this planet on the left or whatever and they will let you down every time as we creep further and further to the right. These people are fart sniffing ladder pullers. Future boomers
Explain why you think a general strike is neutering workers?
A 1 day event is not a general strike, it’s a performance
Once agin the perfect response. So fucking true
100%
While you are correct, we cannot skip steps in developing class consciousness. A 1 day general strike is better than a 0 day general strike. A 2 day strike is better than a 1 day.
You leftist ultras was to forsake progress in the name of idealism.
You really will do ANYTHING but throw a punch, eh?
It will do absolutely nothing. it doesnt inconvenience anything. It doesn’t stop consumption. A meaningless one day event does not develop class consciousness.
A sustained general strike requires widespread strong unions with the ability to keep workers paid and fed for the whole duration of the strike. It’s not something you can just decide to do on a whim, it requires years of preparation by a disciplined labor movement that has already trained those muscles. This 1 day strike isn’t ground-shattering, but it’s a start.
half steppin gets you k!lled… meaning it diffuses the idea of fighting back. We tried that already… actually no you didn’t but you put on a good show
There’s more than a few of these around. They start shit on otherwise seemingly normal posts for no reason, and often have a couple (friends? Alts?) to give them a couple upvotes to keep them afloat. IDK why they seem more prevalent lately and they’re only there to be dicks and not actually engage.
you people are doing nothing… yet you feel other people are doing nothing. What comes after trump is even more dangerous. Hope is a noose… action leads to satifaction.
Because foreign adversarial governments who want to see the demise of the west have access to the internet too.
Seriously, to think the FSB and the CCP’s CPD aren’t on lemmy is to delude oneself…
It gives me hope others recognize this. All we can do is call attention to it.
Some people still tell me to take my tinfoil hat off. Like, how ignorant can one be at this point?
Unless those people are state actors, of course…
I have them tagged as a Troll
They have only ever commented in Politics, World News, and occasionally Late Stage Capitalism
Since their account was created and over 1000 comments, they only talk in a derivative tone about political shit, in only 3 communities. That’s a bullshit account if I’ve ever seen one, or they just have a shitty personality… either way, their opinion is moot to me
