• Buffalox@lemmy.world
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    It’s insanely cool to charge your car from your own solar panels, and drive almost for free. The only “cost” is what you would have received from selling the electricity instead, and selling electricity is for peanuts compared to buying.
    At least that’s how it works here in Denmark.

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      Indeed it is. Unfortunately for most people without subsidies this is difficult to achieve.

      The US needs to subsidize the crap out of EVs and solar, once people start experiencing this they will never go back but gotta get people over the adoption hump.

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        There used to be subsidies. Then everyone decided it would be cool to vote for Trump.

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        There are no subsidies on solar panels here! And EV cars just have lower registration tax, they aren’t actually subsidized.
        ICE cars have higher taxes because they pollute more, and we have tax on gas to limit the use of it.

        USA has failed on such policies for half a century. Which is a major reason why American cars pollute about twice as much as European cars on average. USA is an environmental villain, that never lifted their share of the burden of protecting the environment for the future.

        Being clean should not need to be subsidized, but polluting should absolutely be taxed.

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          Well Americans are also culturally stupid unfortunately. They need to be handed a carrot and beaten with a stick in order to do the right thing.

          The rest of the world isn’t this dumb.

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            19 hours ago

            The rest of the world isn’t this dumb.

            You’re forgetting about Alberta, Canada.

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            True, but I bet most Americans can do what we did just as cheap. It’s just that NOT doing it is way cheaper in USA, because polluting is free in USA.
            For us putting solar panels on the roof, and buying a decent EV, and changing the heating system to an air to water heat pump for central heating of the house, will combined be almost as expensive as it was to buy the house.

            So yes investments are required, but today about 80% of Scandinavians buying a new car are buying a BEV.
            That alone is a HUGE step, because even when charged from the grid, our electricity is about 80% renewable!

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              I’m sure they can, but I’ll refer back to the dumb culture issue. It’s not a matter of being able to do it, it’s that they won’t because engine go brr with dino juicies.

              It’s that stupid, you can’t reason with stupid.

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                I know that’s true for about half the population, that they don’t give a shit about the environment, because fuck the liberals.
                But obviously it’s not all. There are good Americans, although it seems to me they are a minority.
                But yes as a society you are right, USA is way way behind most of the developed world.