Man it’s so funny how the only company that even thinks about allowing you to not have AI, gets so much shit from people.
OK you don’t like AI, you can turn in off. They added an option for that. Meanwhile Chrome is automatically downloading 4gb worth of models without your consent. Same with basically each other browser.
Folks are free to use whichever distro they like, Librefox, Waterfox, but remember that without Mozilla foundation the very engine would stop working. Then these forks will not work anymore. Then where will you go? Chromium? Safari?
It’s important to keep companies accountable, but nothing is ever black and white.
Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.
Yeah I get the feeling like 70+% of people here will never understand that.
Yeah - people love to shit on Mozilla while posting from fucking Google Chrome or Microsoft Edge.
People seem to care more about synthetic benchmarks than using a browser that gives them much less tracking and ads. Remember when chrome was popular because its so fast? I never noticed a difference between that and Firefox in ordinary web pages, except Googles, since they are intentionally making it slow for Firefox.
And with all that going on, people still picked chrome. :)
I think you have to enable it now too, they heard people weren’t fans and responded.
I like that.
Now if only Apple will let Firefox run its own rendering engine instead of Safari’s.
Like, that’s the only thing I don’t get. Other apps which are not web browsers, fine. Use Safari. But an actual web browser? FFS, let them use their own engine.
You can! There’s a browser called reynard and it’s based off gecko web browser but you still need to sideload them, it isn’t available in App Store :-(
The main goal for this browser is to make web browsing usable for older iOS, I find it pretty neat so I wanted to share this!
Does anyone here know how to get the old menu UI back on mobile?
I can’t get used to the new one. It’s not ergonomic at all imo.
Now if Mozilla would finally get a CEO who is not driven by stupid capitalistic bullshit, I would actually start using Firefox again.
Until then, I stick to WaterFox.
Why not LibreWolf?
Too locked down for the average user.
It is? I didn’t notice anything. I suppose by virtue of having even heard of it I’m not the average user.
It genuinely hurts my soul that this is a complete argument.
The idea that users could or should have preferences - to be responsible to opt (in or out) in any capacity is an unreachable goal.
It’s frustrating that a lazy or evil developer can so easily convinve the masses to give up privacy simply by dangling a shiny just outside the default security safeguards.
Ok
Isn’t waterdox owned by a weird company?
Not anymore. It’s owned by the creator again.
Oh awesome!
I like because it’s essentially a stripped down version of FireFox that runs faster and does without any Google or AI being defaulted to on or being in the browser at all (AI).
I find the local trandlation AI to be quite useful. That’s all I’m using though
There is something humorous to the fact that these users have waited until Firefox has begun the AI enshitification process before switching to it. It’s like they just had to wait until it was no longer the clear. Good choice before they made the switch.
FireFox was enhittified even before the AI bits: it fucking spies on you
That’s why I use LibreWolf , which is literally just the latest-stable FF build, but with all the AI and telemetry ripped out, uBlock Origin and anti-fingerprinting enabled by default.
It’s literally what FireFox was supposed to be. And they don’t even accept money . God level.
But there is no mobile version, and their FAQ says it’s unlikely to happen. Instead they point to IronFox, which I presume is nowhere close to feature equivalent to Firefox.
I’m personally quite partial to Fennec.
I’ve been using Fennec for a while and it’s been a great experience. Much good. Do recommend.
Nice but it’s kinda wierd how people decided to use these browsers after this new law was passed, I mean it’s so easy to install apps on smartphones right now but people needed this choice screen to choose another browser of their liking? I would guess it’s probably old people that switched that didn’t know how to install browser without it, I googled but couldn’t find any prove of this tho so it’s just my guts
It’s laziness. Most people just take the path of the least resistance.
Once you show them the screen, any choice is the same amount of work so they will select what they really want. But without the screen, 90% of people will be good enough with the default option. Or, they might even be mildly uncomfortable with that option, but not enough to do something about it.
Maybe Firefox is going to improve performance in android? Also PWA support on android would be great. PWA support is what’s kept me stuck with Brave.
I’ve got to be honest, the occasional glitch in Firefox Android is more than worth the price of not seeing the ads and consent banners that Chrome would have forced me to look at.
