“Very, very senior” officials in the Trump administration have had secret meetings with far-right Canadian separatists trying to shake the foundations of the country. The covert meetings between high-ranking U.S. officials and the Alberta Prosperity Project come as a widening rift appears between Canadian leadership and the White House. Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney used a speech in Davos, Switzerland, last week to call out President Trump for creating a “rupture” in the existing world order.

Archive article: https://archive.is/9FsBL#selection-723.0-727.336

  • Wilco@lemmy.zip
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    4 months ago

    Well, it seems that it is perfectly legal to abduct a country’s president with military force and then put them on trial.
    Care to help us out Canada?

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    If Canada is smarter than America, they will deal with this decisively. It’s one think to be a big dickhead online, screaming for revolution. It’s a whole other thing to be meeting with representatives of a hostile government who has made many threats of invasion. That’s fucking treason, and Canada should deal with it right the fuck NOW, and send a clear message to future traitors. Don’t wait to see if it gets worse, like we do here in America, deal with it preemptively.

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      Through far-left international coordination, perhaps??

      Reactive-programming, using the same methods, ISN’T strategic-win: it’s just becoming the same underlying-nature, in different “makeup”.

      Humankind needs to hold to objectivity, correct-reasoning, breaking ideological-programming, breaking false-framing, breaking machiavellianism ( from ALL sides ), etc,

      & that takes fundamental, profound, strategic investment, & that isn’t happening.

      So, … kiss most of humankind goodbye, this-century, perhaps even all of it.

      It’ll be finished by next-century, probably, the “armageddon” we manufacture ( for our unconscious-mind to play “god” in ).

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          Then automatically downvote everything you see of mine: it costs little, & it makes the world be more to your liking.

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        “OH NO! SOMEBODY WANT TO KICK FASCISM IN THE FACE UNTIL IT STOPS BREATHING AND REPLACE IT WITH BASIC DIGNITY FOR ALL! STOP THEM RIGHT NOW, FOR THE BLOOD-THIRSTY REICH MUST BE FOUGHT ON THE MARKETPLACE OF IDEAS -THEN- MAYBE THEY’LL STOP DEPORTING AND KILLING PEOPLE!”

        I’ve never understood the cuck logic of a nation which has absolutely no trouble sending troops to DESTROY entire countries in the name of oi-- “freedom” (to eat at Mc Donalds after your contry’s been carpet bombed? Wtf?), but will absolutely not confront a threat that is existential to the entire fucking planet when it’s right in front of them.

        And you have guns. You have guns and he’s still alive.

        You must really love your little orange pedoführer.

        • Paragone@lemmy.world
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          I think the fundamental-problem is narcissism-culture.

          The US is more narcissism-culture than the rest of us are, & that’s got consequences…

          the propaganda in US “education” is … sickening, & I’ve only seen people describing it…

          I was in the US shortly after 9/11, & … nationalism is their religion … straight-up religion.

          All-saturating, they breathe it, nothing is tolerated to happen outside it, it’s … not fun.

          Since then, I discovered that nationalism-religion is actually normal!

          Blewmy mind…

          I think that New Zealand & Canada partially escaped that, & that it’s probably the fact that Nature so defined our experiences that we just didn’t go as-far-down that road?

          Ah, you assumed I’m US-citizen…

          Sorry, no.

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        Humankind needs to hold to objectivity, correct-reasoning, breaking ideological-programming, breaking false-framing, breaking machiavellianism ( from ALL sides ), etc,

        This reads like 10 feel good quotes smashed together without any logic.

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          Paradigms produce their-paradigm’s results.

          Never bother expecting empathy from a sociopathic-paradigm, right?

          The paradigm-ITSELF as to be corrected.

          No more-superficial amendment’s going to change anything.

          & if you deem my meanings to be logicless, then simply downvote them all, to improve our world.

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    No one here wants this. It’s an incredibly small minority of morons and nothing will ever come of it. It’s just a bunch of noise because our premier is a piece of dog shit. She will be gone come next election, if she lasts until then.

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      From your lips to God’s ears, gentle Albertan. I’m out in Ontario and get wildly different takes on how “serious” the Separatist movement is. Some people report is as you say, some say it’s “gaining traction”. Highly suspect sources go further, claiming the idea is popular. Even screening out Post Media, there are journalists reporting it as a “very real threat due to institutional support in the Premier’s office”.

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        No, there is no “gaining traction”. The only conversations being had are behind our backs within the provincial government and then that stupid fuck going down to the USA.

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    All y’all thought there was going to be a US Civil War, but it turns out the first shots are getting fired across the Alberta/Saskatchewan border.

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      My guess is the actual answer is something like

      “Because we all do it a little, we just pretend nobody knows and we’re not stupid enough to get caught like these guys lmao.”

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    Installing violent juntas in South America is so 20th Century. Now we’re installing violent juntas in North America.

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    The fucking Russians are mixing with those morons too. Send the far-right Canadians fuck ups for a 6 month stay in the Oklahoma and Mississippi Oblasts. That should clear their fucked up ideas.

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    I heckin’ HATE the Alberta Prosperity Project! If we ever went “independent” we’d get Venezuela’d immediately!

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      Alberta wouldn’t ever be “independent.” At best they would basically get annexed by the US, same way Russia took Crimea, claiming that the presence of separatists justified their actions.

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      I feel like it’s a safe assumption more Americans in border states want to join Canada than the other way around.

      I think even Cali would told it came to a vote and they’d already gained terrority adjacent to Cali thru the Pacific Northwest

      That would be a true death low to the American Empire, without Cali we’d be fucked.

      It would never happen, but it’d be worth Canada to hype it up just because if trump has to play defense, he just stops playing the game and starts a new one. That’s whY the whole TACO thing is, but because someone on social media made up a buzzword, no one really understands what’s happening

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        Trump dictates that other countries comply & submit to his bullying, ELSE US’s tarriffs will bludgeon their economies until they obey.

        Now extrapolate Trump’s curve, from the 1980’s, when The Kremlin Papers indicate Putin was investing in him, until now, & keep the acceleration in that curve.

        “Majority opinion” or whatever it is that you’re believing rules, now, ISN’T what rules:

        He’s on-track to break the US Constitution’s significance within months or weeks, probably by the Insurrection Act.

        ICE’s purpose isn’t even obvious, yet: once he “de-naturalizes” all who won’t vow allegiance to him, directly ( as he apparently already does for senior beaurocrats in multiple federal agencies ), suddenly are “illegals”, & that means 100’s of millions of “illegals”, & then the reason he insists they have TOTAL immunity will become blatent.

        Deathmatch, between his authority vs the disintegrated, not-organized, “woke”, & if everybody is destroyed, so long as nobody-else won, then he wins.

        Negative-Sum game ( competitive-nihilism ) combined with Zero-Sum game ( competitive-narcissism ).


        IF a country WON’T prevent DarkTriad from gaining authority, THEN that country will be ruled, & probably destroyed, by DarkTriad’s ruling it.

        Karma, aka “sow->reap law”.

        We WOULDN’T prevent DarkTriad from ruling our countries, .: we’re about to be getting fatal consequences.

        The rules are fundamentally changing beneath us, right now, & shortly the tippingpoint gets crossed, then Civil War Part2: confederate reverse-takeover & vengeance

        begins all-out.

        Canada, too, gets torn up, by the prejudice-enforcers in Alberta & Quebec ( & the Anglo-supremacists who bully Quebecois validity, & the rest of the factional-supremacists: ALL sides have them, including Indigenous people, Whites, India, Chinese, ALL kinds of saboteurs of Canada’s viability… it’s natural, given how little we invested in establishing common-experience, like what Katimavik used to do )

        Prep, if you want to live long in the next stage of our world: it’ll be violent, once the right-wing has shed rule-of-law for rule-of-authority, completely.

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        • Jesus_666@lemmy.world
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          Trump dictates that other countries comply & submit to his bullying, ELSE US’s tarriffs will bludgeon their economies until they obey.

          Which is why the EU is currently making trade agreements with just about everyone on the planet. The USA handing out tariffs like candy is a lot less relevant when you can pivot your trade elsewhere on fairly short order.

          Such an agreement with Canada has been in the works for the last ten years. All that’s currently missing is for it to be ratified by all involved countries, which might go a bit quicker now given how the States are behaving.